while many of the neoclassical movement sculptors from america traveled to italy for an education, he was self-taught, which is another reason why he's considered to be such an important artist in the neoclassical movement. as we can see, we have a minor condition issue to the nose, which is a chip to the marble. and generally that would affect the value, and i feel that it has a little bit, but he's considered to be such an important artist that it doesn't bring it down as much as one might expect. if i were to see this at auction, i would put an auction estimate of $10,000 to $15,000 on it. and i've been carrying it around all afternoon. oh, my. eleven years ago, a similar plaque sold for $35,000. now, the market has gone up and down and up and down since then. so we feel that $10,000 to $15,000 is a conservative auction estimate. thank you very much. thank you. thanks for bringing it in. man: my grandpa's brother died and there were some boxes of books and some of the family members were allowed to, you know, take stuff; i got the books. i haven't read the book, so... don't ask me